Our REC in Charlotte County only gives the candidates an extremely short time, a minute or two, to inform its members. The chairman actually kicked out the best candidate that Charlotte County has ever had from their "interview" by their interview committed headed up and entirely controlled by the REC chairman. Most of the insiders endorse the status quo, big spending candidates over the grass roots Constitutional candidates that would serve the people
The chairman of the REC, jumped up and down when the Republican Liberty Caucus put a front page ad in the local newspaper endorsing the non-establishment candidates. You can and should fight the corruption in the local RECs, but until that succeeds, the Republican Liberty Caucus is the place you want to go to hang out with like minded people and take action. Many of the counties in Florida have chartered local organizations. If you county doesn't, you can get 10 or 12 people together and charter your own county RLC. www.rlcfl.org
Appalling that this degree of (UN) American tyranny is happening in Manatee! This and other disgusting information from the so-called career politicians supposedly working "for" the people and obviously..NOT ...is very upsetting to say the least. It sounds like the "good ole' boys club to me. I am voting for an 8 year Veteran who served our country with his life, Jason Beardon. .. who many of us want in office. Honesty and integrity is what we want and what is expected. You are all so transparent in your high handed and arrogant actions. You don't think we notice? Jason WILL be working FOR THE PEOPLE! I believe in GOD and His avenging Hand will be felt by many.
Over and over the MREC Chairman doesn't want the members to know that they are the ones who set agendas, make motions, recommend candidates etc. It is a shame that there seems to be a coalition of RINOs and establishment folks who want it only their way. It seems that they want to only collect money for members and tell the members to shut up. Also, I found it interesting that the Treasurer stated that only the minuscule report that they put out at the meeting is the only thing that the members can get. Unfortunately for him, he stated that he had to turn in quarterly reports to the SOE. So I have gone down and got myself a years worth and my my my...it opened my eyes to what these folks have been spending money on. It is a shame as these members who are trying to make motions, know the rules and have been trying to use them. The problem is that the Chair doesn't know them and admitted as much at the last meeting. I am sorry but if you have been in an organization for that many years as he boasts then you would think by now you would know the rules especially if you are the chair. However, it was evident that he didn't know back in May when a member stood up and asked for a motion about knowing who the speakers were in advance. The Chair started screaming at the member. Evident that the chair didn't know the rules that probably his HOA uses like mine does. Anyway it was evident that none of the board knew the rules as they never corrected him. These board members either are incompetent or have made so many backroom deals that they are compromised as they don't correct this chair when he is wrong. They also have goons running around telling people not to associate with people and did do what the author stated as I saw one of them go after them outside of the meeting hall. I am so appalled with the way these board members are acting. I think that all members should start making motions.
Isn't it interesting that the Chair of the Manatee REC took it upon himself to endorse a candidate running for school board using his official email when there are two Republicans running in the race? The Assembly was consulted nor voted for the endorsement. The candidate endorsed was appointed but wasn't living in the district at the time. However, the opponent has been living in the area the whole time. Not sure if he was invited to speak at the REC. Dirty Politics? Ethics Violation?
I would rather continue this conversation in person rather than my feeble attempt at typing. Again we can meet if you wish. Or I will see you at the next REC
It is the Total and complete lack of respect for our local REC constitution that Left me believing this Chair cannot possibly be a true conservative. True conservatives believe in he rule of law and in constitutional authority.
This perception may not be true, we may have many values and ideas in common, and if we open up the floor and run the meetings properly we would find that out.
First, if you can write a bunch of words (some of the wording made no sense) you should be able to state your name. I can't believe this report allows people to print any kind of commentary without putting a name with it. I think like most humans the chair made a couple of mistakes. But whatever your name is to constantly be disruptive and disrespectable I don't know why you come to the meetings. Do everyone a favor and stay home. Let me make this clear I attend most of the meetings and I volunteer to help out. For the record my name is Ken Knight. If you are going to be civil I will see you at the next meeting.
So a question for you Ken. Do you believe that elected members should be able to make motions during a meeting? If not, why not? The rules that the REC abides by allows this. The problem is that the Chair and Board have not been following them. If you don't believe in this then maybe take a look at Robert's Rules of Order. Any time a group wants to shut down your voice it is another chain breaking and leads to totalitarianism. That is what this chair seems to want. Take a look at the email sent to all REC members that came out from Ted McCormac a couple of weeks ago. It stated as much when it said that the Chair should approve all motions...That is not how Robert's Rules Work nor it is outlined in our governing documents.
I believe the Chair has the right to make a motion as long as he/she steps down from the chair and appoints an officer to stand in his/her stead. That did not happen so according to Roberts Rules of Order he was wrong.But i like most people allow for mistakes. Most times the chair entertains motions from the floor, however the members are not allowed to just stand up and in the middle of discussion make a motion and be disruptive, disrespectful and disorderly. I think a lot of what Ted wrote was out of frustration. I think he also made some valid points. I have no idea how many meetings the chair has presided over but I certianly do not think there is a hidden agenda. To give you my honest opinion I am not sure that these new people may be attending just to stir up trouble. I think they may have an agenda. If you would like to meet for coffee some where we can discuss this in person. Ken Knight
You are correct about the Chair being able to make a motion as a member and not as a chair. But you are missing the point. In the last meeting he put out that you have to submit motions 15 days prior to the meeting and he will either approve them or not to be addressed. Sorry that is a dictatorship and goes against the rules. As far as your second point, a member so long as there is a break between agenda items and no one is speaking, they can make a motion. It is in Robert's Rules. Also, the chair doesn't recognize people who are asking questions. I have seen people ask for point of information and he ignores them. I take the point if you are running for office for an organization, then you should be well aware or the rules that it is governed under. His "parliamentarian" admitted that he isn't certified. As far as an agenda, have you seen the board rebut that email that went out to the REC calling the America First people insurgents? Have you spoken with any of them? I have and they just want to participate and have a voice. It seems that the Chair and Board just want them to shut up.
I agree some edits to my wording are in order. I’ll post a proof read version for you. But If you want things to go smoothly in meetings then the Board should consider following our constitution and rules of order. That’s what they’re for. If you want respect you have to earn it and give it. Knowing the rules of order is the chairs job. Making a motion is the right and duty of every PC- sorry if you find that disruptive.
The audience mentioned in the above article was the Manatee County Republican Executive Committee….. not some “Assembly” as was referenced more than once.
Our REC in Charlotte County only gives the candidates an extremely short time, a minute or two, to inform its members. The chairman actually kicked out the best candidate that Charlotte County has ever had from their "interview" by their interview committed headed up and entirely controlled by the REC chairman. Most of the insiders endorse the status quo, big spending candidates over the grass roots Constitutional candidates that would serve the people
The chairman of the REC, jumped up and down when the Republican Liberty Caucus put a front page ad in the local newspaper endorsing the non-establishment candidates. You can and should fight the corruption in the local RECs, but until that succeeds, the Republican Liberty Caucus is the place you want to go to hang out with like minded people and take action. Many of the counties in Florida have chartered local organizations. If you county doesn't, you can get 10 or 12 people together and charter your own county RLC. www.rlcfl.org
Most RLC's are reliably against the RINO Establishment but not Pinellas which is controlled by the Latvala Family.
Appalling that this degree of (UN) American tyranny is happening in Manatee! This and other disgusting information from the so-called career politicians supposedly working "for" the people and obviously..NOT ...is very upsetting to say the least. It sounds like the "good ole' boys club to me. I am voting for an 8 year Veteran who served our country with his life, Jason Beardon. .. who many of us want in office. Honesty and integrity is what we want and what is expected. You are all so transparent in your high handed and arrogant actions. You don't think we notice? Jason WILL be working FOR THE PEOPLE! I believe in GOD and His avenging Hand will be felt by many.
Well said. So glad we have “target offenders” to stand up to the old guard!
Volusia county REC did the very same thing. Rinos
Over and over the MREC Chairman doesn't want the members to know that they are the ones who set agendas, make motions, recommend candidates etc. It is a shame that there seems to be a coalition of RINOs and establishment folks who want it only their way. It seems that they want to only collect money for members and tell the members to shut up. Also, I found it interesting that the Treasurer stated that only the minuscule report that they put out at the meeting is the only thing that the members can get. Unfortunately for him, he stated that he had to turn in quarterly reports to the SOE. So I have gone down and got myself a years worth and my my my...it opened my eyes to what these folks have been spending money on. It is a shame as these members who are trying to make motions, know the rules and have been trying to use them. The problem is that the Chair doesn't know them and admitted as much at the last meeting. I am sorry but if you have been in an organization for that many years as he boasts then you would think by now you would know the rules especially if you are the chair. However, it was evident that he didn't know back in May when a member stood up and asked for a motion about knowing who the speakers were in advance. The Chair started screaming at the member. Evident that the chair didn't know the rules that probably his HOA uses like mine does. Anyway it was evident that none of the board knew the rules as they never corrected him. These board members either are incompetent or have made so many backroom deals that they are compromised as they don't correct this chair when he is wrong. They also have goons running around telling people not to associate with people and did do what the author stated as I saw one of them go after them outside of the meeting hall. I am so appalled with the way these board members are acting. I think that all members should start making motions.
Isn't it interesting that the Chair of the Manatee REC took it upon himself to endorse a candidate running for school board using his official email when there are two Republicans running in the race? The Assembly was consulted nor voted for the endorsement. The candidate endorsed was appointed but wasn't living in the district at the time. However, the opponent has been living in the area the whole time. Not sure if he was invited to speak at the REC. Dirty Politics? Ethics Violation?
I would rather continue this conversation in person rather than my feeble attempt at typing. Again we can meet if you wish. Or I will see you at the next REC
It is the Total and complete lack of respect for our local REC constitution that Left me believing this Chair cannot possibly be a true conservative. True conservatives believe in he rule of law and in constitutional authority.
This perception may not be true, we may have many values and ideas in common, and if we open up the floor and run the meetings properly we would find that out.
My observations and thoughts, Linda. I am sure you have your own?
My thoughts and observations. I trust you think the same.
First, if you can write a bunch of words (some of the wording made no sense) you should be able to state your name. I can't believe this report allows people to print any kind of commentary without putting a name with it. I think like most humans the chair made a couple of mistakes. But whatever your name is to constantly be disruptive and disrespectable I don't know why you come to the meetings. Do everyone a favor and stay home. Let me make this clear I attend most of the meetings and I volunteer to help out. For the record my name is Ken Knight. If you are going to be civil I will see you at the next meeting.
So a question for you Ken. Do you believe that elected members should be able to make motions during a meeting? If not, why not? The rules that the REC abides by allows this. The problem is that the Chair and Board have not been following them. If you don't believe in this then maybe take a look at Robert's Rules of Order. Any time a group wants to shut down your voice it is another chain breaking and leads to totalitarianism. That is what this chair seems to want. Take a look at the email sent to all REC members that came out from Ted McCormac a couple of weeks ago. It stated as much when it said that the Chair should approve all motions...That is not how Robert's Rules Work nor it is outlined in our governing documents.
Hello Silver Surfer,
I believe the Chair has the right to make a motion as long as he/she steps down from the chair and appoints an officer to stand in his/her stead. That did not happen so according to Roberts Rules of Order he was wrong.But i like most people allow for mistakes. Most times the chair entertains motions from the floor, however the members are not allowed to just stand up and in the middle of discussion make a motion and be disruptive, disrespectful and disorderly. I think a lot of what Ted wrote was out of frustration. I think he also made some valid points. I have no idea how many meetings the chair has presided over but I certianly do not think there is a hidden agenda. To give you my honest opinion I am not sure that these new people may be attending just to stir up trouble. I think they may have an agenda. If you would like to meet for coffee some where we can discuss this in person. Ken Knight
You are correct about the Chair being able to make a motion as a member and not as a chair. But you are missing the point. In the last meeting he put out that you have to submit motions 15 days prior to the meeting and he will either approve them or not to be addressed. Sorry that is a dictatorship and goes against the rules. As far as your second point, a member so long as there is a break between agenda items and no one is speaking, they can make a motion. It is in Robert's Rules. Also, the chair doesn't recognize people who are asking questions. I have seen people ask for point of information and he ignores them. I take the point if you are running for office for an organization, then you should be well aware or the rules that it is governed under. His "parliamentarian" admitted that he isn't certified. As far as an agenda, have you seen the board rebut that email that went out to the REC calling the America First people insurgents? Have you spoken with any of them? I have and they just want to participate and have a voice. It seems that the Chair and Board just want them to shut up.
I agree some edits to my wording are in order. I’ll post a proof read version for you. But If you want things to go smoothly in meetings then the Board should consider following our constitution and rules of order. That’s what they’re for. If you want respect you have to earn it and give it. Knowing the rules of order is the chairs job. Making a motion is the right and duty of every PC- sorry if you find that disruptive.
The audience mentioned in the above article was the Manatee County Republican Executive Committee….. not some “Assembly” as was referenced more than once.
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